1 00:00:07,039 --> 00:00:02,869 right good afternoon everyone it is 2 00:00:09,740 --> 00:00:07,049 afternoon mm-hmm I'm happy to be here 3 00:00:11,990 --> 00:00:09,750 and be able to share this with you it's 4 00:00:14,330 --> 00:00:12,000 about a project I've been involved in 5 00:00:16,849 --> 00:00:14,340 for a long time a personal project it's 6 00:00:20,390 --> 00:00:16,859 called a re G project and the web model 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:20,400 of mind and it uses a random event 8 00:00:23,540 --> 00:00:22,050 generators a random number generators 9 00:00:25,900 --> 00:00:23,550 which we've heard about already quite a 10 00:00:28,130 --> 00:00:25,910 bit today so I'm not going to go into 11 00:00:30,380 --> 00:00:28,140 detail on that except to say that 12 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:30,390 typically speaking when one is working 13 00:00:35,870 --> 00:00:32,250 with an re G you're trying to get either 14 00:00:38,090 --> 00:00:35,880 a mean shift of more ones and zeros or 15 00:00:40,490 --> 00:00:38,100 more zeroes than ones the question is 16 00:00:42,979 --> 00:00:40,500 can the mind affect that pattern of 17 00:00:45,049 --> 00:00:42,989 output and it's been studied as you know 18 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:45,059 at a number of key laboratories around 19 00:00:50,150 --> 00:00:48,450 the world and large meta-analysis of 20 00:00:54,049 --> 00:00:50,160 results have have said that yes in fact 21 00:00:56,750 --> 00:00:54,059 it is possible and again just a 1 22 00:00:59,500 --> 00:00:56,760 background slide is some pairs from 23 00:01:02,779 --> 00:00:59,510 Princeton pair laboratory data showing 24 00:01:05,750 --> 00:01:02,789 91 participants where when they were 25 00:01:07,609 --> 00:01:05,760 trying to get more ones and zeros they 26 00:01:09,590 --> 00:01:07,619 were able to do that and when they were 27 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:09,600 trying to get more zeros than ones they 28 00:01:15,289 --> 00:01:12,570 were also able to do that to significant 29 00:01:18,649 --> 00:01:15,299 levels where the significant level was 30 00:01:20,359 --> 00:01:18,659 defined as this parabola on the high and 31 00:01:23,539 --> 00:01:20,369 low side anything in the middle is not 32 00:01:25,429 --> 00:01:23,549 significant but above and below is 33 00:01:26,899 --> 00:01:25,439 significant and by the way this middle 34 00:01:29,060 --> 00:01:26,909 line was where they were trying to keep 35 00:01:32,090 --> 00:01:29,070 it basically flat in the middle which 36 00:01:33,859 --> 00:01:32,100 would be a 50% line so this is called a 37 00:01:35,510 --> 00:01:33,869 random walk chart and it's basically a 38 00:01:38,060 --> 00:01:35,520 way of presenting this type of data and 39 00:01:40,550 --> 00:01:38,070 this particular data set was very 40 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:40,560 significant over the course of the 41 00:01:46,490 --> 00:01:44,250 research so now how is my project 42 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:46,500 different well rather than doing a cross 43 00:01:50,450 --> 00:01:48,570 sectional analysis with lots of subjects 44 00:01:53,690 --> 00:01:50,460 I was essentially going to do a 45 00:01:56,330 --> 00:01:53,700 longitudinal single subject design which 46 00:01:58,370 --> 00:01:56,340 essentially with myself as the subject 47 00:02:00,530 --> 00:01:58,380 to see whether or not over the long term 48 00:02:03,709 --> 00:02:00,540 I would be able to train myself on this 49 00:02:05,569 --> 00:02:03,719 fairly capricious kind of process where 50 00:02:07,039 --> 00:02:05,579 sometimes people get results and 51 00:02:10,100 --> 00:02:07,049 sometimes they don't so the question is 52 00:02:12,470 --> 00:02:10,110 could it could it be trained but more 53 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:12,480 than that my real interest was in being 54 00:02:15,260 --> 00:02:13,170 an investor 55 00:02:16,940 --> 00:02:15,270 and a theory builder that is I was going 56 00:02:19,070 --> 00:02:16,950 to be watching myself as I did this 57 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:19,080 project and try to determine what were 58 00:02:24,350 --> 00:02:21,090 the states of mind that were involved in 59 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:24,360 the ability to actually get good results 60 00:02:29,390 --> 00:02:27,810 so if I could correlate the my state of 61 00:02:31,610 --> 00:02:29,400 mind with what the results were that 62 00:02:33,770 --> 00:02:31,620 would be essentially a way of beginning 63 00:02:35,540 --> 00:02:33,780 to build a model as to what actually 64 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:35,550 causes the results 65 00:02:42,500 --> 00:02:39,450 so I spent woops I spent 11 years doing 66 00:02:45,170 --> 00:02:42,510 this over 10,000 hours involved in it 67 00:02:47,060 --> 00:02:45,180 and 2200 pages of journal notes and 68 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:47,070 those journal notes were produced 69 00:02:50,420 --> 00:02:49,170 because at the end of every session I 70 00:02:52,070 --> 00:02:50,430 wrote up what happened to me because 71 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:52,080 otherwise you just don't remember what 72 00:02:57,350 --> 00:02:55,890 what happens during the session so for 73 00:02:59,150 --> 00:02:57,360 the first six months of the project I 74 00:03:01,250 --> 00:02:59,160 got absolutely nothing I could see no 75 00:03:04,130 --> 00:03:01,260 correlation whatsoever between what I 76 00:03:07,250 --> 00:03:04,140 was doing and the re G output and then I 77 00:03:10,580 --> 00:03:07,260 began to experience these patterns that 78 00:03:12,979 --> 00:03:10,590 were kind of waves and I would find that 79 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:12,989 I was anticipating what was happening 80 00:03:16,460 --> 00:03:14,850 with this wave so I would be kind of 81 00:03:18,289 --> 00:03:16,470 feeling like well I'm not doing well and 82 00:03:20,660 --> 00:03:18,299 I kind of feel sort of depressed about 83 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:20,670 it and it's just pushing down and then 84 00:03:24,350 --> 00:03:22,170 suddenly I'd feel the lightening up and 85 00:03:25,819 --> 00:03:24,360 I'd say gee I'll bet the results are 86 00:03:29,060 --> 00:03:25,829 going to get better now and in fact they 87 00:03:32,750 --> 00:03:29,070 would so it was an anticipatory response 88 00:03:34,220 --> 00:03:32,760 in these sorts of patterns that made me 89 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:34,230 think something was going on I wasn't 90 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:36,570 reacting to what was happening I was in 91 00:03:42,650 --> 00:03:39,570 fact anticipating what was happening so 92 00:03:44,569 --> 00:03:42,660 then became this this more that this 93 00:03:46,819 --> 00:03:44,579 almost ubiquitous phenomenon which is 94 00:03:49,130 --> 00:03:46,829 we've sort of called a rubber band which 95 00:03:52,759 --> 00:03:49,140 is where you start out and you do really 96 00:03:54,229 --> 00:03:52,769 well you just peak and you experience 97 00:03:55,580 --> 00:03:54,239 that wow I'm really in the zone I'm 98 00:03:57,620 --> 00:03:55,590 really doing well but then at some 99 00:03:59,420 --> 00:03:57,630 moment you stop and you go oh my gosh 100 00:04:01,759 --> 00:03:59,430 I'm doing really well what what happens 101 00:04:03,020 --> 00:04:01,769 if I if I stop doing well you you sort 102 00:04:04,850 --> 00:04:03,030 of second-guess yourself you step 103 00:04:07,430 --> 00:04:04,860 outside of the moment and you kind of 104 00:04:09,050 --> 00:04:07,440 jinx yourself and sure enough and just 105 00:04:12,140 --> 00:04:09,060 it happens all the time 106 00:04:16,849 --> 00:04:12,150 immediately you go right back down to 107 00:04:19,069 --> 00:04:16,859 zero now sorry if if you have just 108 00:04:20,870 --> 00:04:19,079 disconnected you would continue to go 109 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:20,880 sort of laterally which would be a 110 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:23,010 randomness from that point on but no you 111 00:04:28,690 --> 00:04:26,410 go straight back down to zero so 112 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:28,700 these are different time scales this is 113 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:31,250 tip this one is actually about six 114 00:04:37,870 --> 00:04:34,970 minutes six seven minutes but so so the 115 00:04:40,300 --> 00:04:37,880 point here is that if you look from a 116 00:04:41,980 --> 00:04:40,310 statistical data standpoint you've ended 117 00:04:44,170 --> 00:04:41,990 up where you started and nothing 118 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:44,180 happened from from a data standpoint but 119 00:04:47,860 --> 00:04:45,890 from an emotional standpoint you've been 120 00:04:50,380 --> 00:04:47,870 through this experience where you went 121 00:04:54,330 --> 00:04:50,390 up and you went down it's almost as if 122 00:04:56,710 --> 00:04:54,340 the there's two pieces to there to the 123 00:05:01,210 --> 00:04:56,720 effect there was an up effect and a down 124 00:05:04,450 --> 00:05:01,220 effect so here's a another example of a 125 00:05:06,909 --> 00:05:04,460 power of expectations a sense of what 126 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:06,919 should happen and having it happen is 127 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:09,770 that I started immediately I was above 128 00:05:13,420 --> 00:05:12,050 the parabola I was in significance but I 129 00:05:16,510 --> 00:05:13,430 kept trying to go higher and higher and 130 00:05:18,340 --> 00:05:16,520 I just couldn't I was like stuck and 131 00:05:21,700 --> 00:05:18,350 finally after about six or seven minutes 132 00:05:23,020 --> 00:05:21,710 of trying I said okay it's not gonna 133 00:05:24,700 --> 00:05:23,030 it's not going to do any better so I'm 134 00:05:26,620 --> 00:05:24,710 just gonna let go I'm gonna just forget 135 00:05:28,030 --> 00:05:26,630 it and I'll start again later and I knew 136 00:05:30,159 --> 00:05:28,040 that as soon as I said I'm gonna let go 137 00:05:31,510 --> 00:05:30,169 it would go right back to zero which is 138 00:05:33,540 --> 00:05:31,520 exactly what it did and then it 139 00:05:36,070 --> 00:05:33,550 flattened out and I said okay I'm done 140 00:05:37,780 --> 00:05:36,080 so here's another chart which I call a 141 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:37,790 brain-dead chart which is when I plant 142 00:05:40,840 --> 00:05:39,410 been playing the thing for more than say 143 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:40,850 three or four hours at a time 144 00:05:44,770 --> 00:05:42,770 in fact I've even fallen asleep while 145 00:05:47,110 --> 00:05:44,780 I'm pressing the key on the computer and 146 00:05:49,630 --> 00:05:47,120 it just sort of indicates that there's 147 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:49,640 no energy here it's like a lack of any 148 00:05:53,469 --> 00:05:51,530 kind of as soon as it goes up I figure 149 00:05:57,490 --> 00:05:53,479 it's going to go back down so it's kind 150 00:06:00,310 --> 00:05:57,500 of what's the point so that's a super 151 00:06:03,670 --> 00:06:00,320 normal sort of example and then finally 152 00:06:06,310 --> 00:06:03,680 one last example on this I'll I'll just 153 00:06:08,050 --> 00:06:06,320 read this was from my journal I was 154 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:08,060 going nowhere and facing down a sense of 155 00:06:11,950 --> 00:06:09,770 being stuck but each time I thought I 156 00:06:14,170 --> 00:06:11,960 might make headway it still went nowhere 157 00:06:16,180 --> 00:06:14,180 I was hugging the zero line just able to 158 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:16,190 keep from giving up and stopping as I 159 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:18,410 was just edging down but then suddenly I 160 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:20,330 shifted to the top of my head and felt 161 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:22,130 as though a window opened upward like a 162 00:06:25,990 --> 00:06:23,930 channel or tunnel through this barrier I 163 00:06:28,210 --> 00:06:26,000 opened it upward and had a sense of 164 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:28,220 freedom and wonder as my inner conflicts 165 00:06:32,530 --> 00:06:30,530 dropped away from that instant I soared 166 00:06:34,750 --> 00:06:32,540 upward with an exhilarating sense of joy 167 00:06:36,610 --> 00:06:34,760 the output tracked this experience when 168 00:06:38,620 --> 00:06:36,620 I got to positive significance the top 169 00:06:39,399 --> 00:06:38,630 of the parabola I stopped to marvel at 170 00:06:41,679 --> 00:06:39,409 the whole thing 171 00:06:43,629 --> 00:06:41,689 I later analyzed this rough period of 172 00:06:48,429 --> 00:06:43,639 change to find that it was a z-score of 173 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:48,439 over five five Sigma all right so I did 174 00:06:52,209 --> 00:06:50,330 four formal studies during this period 175 00:06:55,689 --> 00:06:52,219 the first one was about two and a half 176 00:06:57,639 --> 00:06:55,699 million trials and it ended up highly 177 00:07:00,489 --> 00:06:57,649 significant and then I was challenged by 178 00:07:02,139 --> 00:07:00,499 my colleagues to replicate that so I did 179 00:07:04,570 --> 00:07:02,149 studies two in three of each of a 180 00:07:06,969 --> 00:07:04,580 million trials and I was able to 181 00:07:09,699 --> 00:07:06,979 replicate these or z-scores in the order 182 00:07:11,429 --> 00:07:09,709 of two point two to two point three by 183 00:07:13,359 --> 00:07:11,439 the way these dotted lines represent 184 00:07:14,619 --> 00:07:13,369 calibration data where I was just 185 00:07:16,749 --> 00:07:14,629 checking to make sure the device was 186 00:07:18,609 --> 00:07:16,759 working normally when I wasn't you know 187 00:07:21,850 --> 00:07:18,619 when I wasn't working on it and then 188 00:07:23,379 --> 00:07:21,860 finally study four was when I said after 189 00:07:24,579 --> 00:07:23,389 the first three studies I hadn't thought 190 00:07:25,389 --> 00:07:24,589 about putting them together but when I 191 00:07:28,869 --> 00:07:25,399 did put them together 192 00:07:30,459 --> 00:07:28,879 they were statistically improbable to 193 00:07:32,379 --> 00:07:30,469 one over a hundred thousand and I said 194 00:07:35,379 --> 00:07:32,389 well if I add one more data set maybe I 195 00:07:37,119 --> 00:07:35,389 can get one over a million and so in 196 00:07:40,299 --> 00:07:37,129 fact when you put all that data together 197 00:07:42,279 --> 00:07:40,309 I did reach my target point I got a Z 198 00:07:45,279 --> 00:07:42,289 combined Z of four point eight five odds 199 00:07:46,419 --> 00:07:45,289 of one point seven million to one or one 200 00:07:48,009 --> 00:07:46,429 in one point seven million and by the 201 00:07:50,079 --> 00:07:48,019 way I'm not psychic person I mean this 202 00:07:51,759 --> 00:07:50,089 was not it's not like I I did this 203 00:07:53,139 --> 00:07:51,769 because I thought I was psychic I was 204 00:07:54,669 --> 00:07:53,149 really doing this to get to this next 205 00:07:57,100 --> 00:07:54,679 part which is so I could try to figure 206 00:07:59,139 --> 00:07:57,110 out what's going on so how do we model 207 00:08:00,819 --> 00:07:59,149 this what's going on well it's the 208 00:08:03,009 --> 00:08:00,829 richness of the experience that informs 209 00:08:04,929 --> 00:08:03,019 the model if there's a heavy emotional 210 00:08:06,339 --> 00:08:04,939 component to it which I had no idea when 211 00:08:08,799 --> 00:08:06,349 I started why there should be a heavy 212 00:08:12,549 --> 00:08:08,809 emotional component but doing poorly is 213 00:08:14,619 --> 00:08:12,559 upsetting and doing well is spooky so 214 00:08:17,019 --> 00:08:14,629 doing an average feels best to the 215 00:08:19,479 --> 00:08:17,029 subconscious it that generates no kind 216 00:08:22,119 --> 00:08:19,489 of emotional alerts so it seems like the 217 00:08:23,919 --> 00:08:22,129 significance of the results seems to be 218 00:08:26,199 --> 00:08:23,929 the key to the emotional response and 219 00:08:29,889 --> 00:08:26,209 the emotions feedback to influence the 220 00:08:32,290 --> 00:08:29,899 results so I using this very simple 221 00:08:35,049 --> 00:08:32,300 model that I call a web model of mine or 222 00:08:37,749 --> 00:08:35,059 associative web model and associative 223 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:37,759 web is just to say that the - consists 224 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:40,610 of associations like apples to seeds to 225 00:08:45,220 --> 00:08:43,250 branches to trees you know your your 226 00:08:46,869 --> 00:08:45,230 wife to your son your spouse is all that 227 00:08:48,759 --> 00:08:46,879 kind of thing everything is is combined 228 00:08:52,329 --> 00:08:48,769 together in a kind of a fabric that 229 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:52,339 makes up your mind and when you 230 00:08:55,700 --> 00:08:53,130 experience 231 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:55,710 some kind of a pull on that say there's 232 00:09:00,290 --> 00:08:57,810 a thread of that fabric that gets pulled 233 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:00,300 on kind of when we might say my mind got 234 00:09:04,490 --> 00:09:02,970 stretched by an idea it is that these 235 00:09:06,530 --> 00:09:04,500 associations are being pulled out of 236 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:06,540 place and they want to snap back into 237 00:09:11,450 --> 00:09:09,210 place and unless they're pulled to a 238 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:11,460 point of beyond elasticity they will 239 00:09:17,810 --> 00:09:13,770 snap back into place which is kind of 240 00:09:20,510 --> 00:09:17,820 the way our minds work so in terms of 241 00:09:22,820 --> 00:09:20,520 the re G I modeled this web in a 242 00:09:26,450 --> 00:09:22,830 slightly different way this is a what I 243 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:26,460 call a bowl of significance which is 244 00:09:31,550 --> 00:09:29,130 it's a web but it's it's formed in kind 245 00:09:33,350 --> 00:09:31,560 of a bowl where at the center is the 246 00:09:34,460 --> 00:09:33,360 normalcy the sense of normalcy where 247 00:09:37,610 --> 00:09:34,470 everything's fine and everything is 248 00:09:39,830 --> 00:09:37,620 normal and nothing is out of whack but 249 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:39,840 the action ball being kind of where your 250 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:41,730 consciousness is sitting such as when 251 00:09:45,980 --> 00:09:43,170 you start an re G session and you're at 252 00:09:47,300 --> 00:09:45,990 50/50 so you're at kind of normalcy but 253 00:09:49,700 --> 00:09:47,310 when you're trying to go up to get to 254 00:09:52,070 --> 00:09:49,710 one and 100se as your target playing the 255 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:52,080 game the action ball begins to move up 256 00:09:55,850 --> 00:09:54,090 the side of this bowl of significance it 257 00:09:58,010 --> 00:09:55,860 begins to pull on these threads and it 258 00:09:59,600 --> 00:09:58,020 begins to have a sense of being up the 259 00:10:01,910 --> 00:09:59,610 side where it could fall back down so 260 00:10:04,310 --> 00:10:01,920 there's a there's a mental sense that 261 00:10:07,540 --> 00:10:04,320 you are going off-kilter you're going 262 00:10:11,060 --> 00:10:07,550 out of where the mind wants to sit and 263 00:10:13,460 --> 00:10:11,070 here's a example of significance 264 00:10:16,580 --> 00:10:13,470 profiles where this bowl which I just 265 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:16,590 showed on the last slide is a kind of a 266 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:18,330 one in a hundred Bowl and you could see 267 00:10:22,070 --> 00:10:20,850 three of them together and say oh I'm 268 00:10:23,750 --> 00:10:22,080 going to do this and then I'm going to 269 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:23,760 replicate it with this and replicate it 270 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:25,770 with this but that's highly different 271 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:28,370 from this one in a million 272 00:10:34,010 --> 00:10:31,290 significance Bowl but in fact these 273 00:10:36,050 --> 00:10:34,020 these two are the same because these two 274 00:10:37,790 --> 00:10:36,060 these three strung in to end would be 275 00:10:39,980 --> 00:10:37,800 the same as this from a statistical 276 00:10:41,420 --> 00:10:39,990 standpoint but from an emotional 277 00:10:43,610 --> 00:10:41,430 psychological standpoint they're vastly 278 00:10:46,820 --> 00:10:43,620 different and I think it's that that 279 00:10:48,770 --> 00:10:46,830 drives the effects not if not not the 280 00:10:51,950 --> 00:10:48,780 statistics themselves but the sense of 281 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:51,960 your relationship to those statistics so 282 00:10:54,830 --> 00:10:53,370 I think that this could be a whole new 283 00:10:56,570 --> 00:10:54,840 area of psychology that I call 284 00:10:59,510 --> 00:10:56,580 structural psychology based on the 285 00:11:01,940 --> 00:10:59,520 structure and action of these webs which 286 00:11:03,290 --> 00:11:01,950 I call units of meaning so a given 287 00:11:04,970 --> 00:11:03,300 moment in time that you're working with 288 00:11:06,740 --> 00:11:04,980 is a kind of unit of meaning and it has 289 00:11:10,250 --> 00:11:06,750 its own sense of what's new 290 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:10,260 normal and its own boundaries so each of 291 00:11:14,060 --> 00:11:12,210 these webs it's it's kind of in the 292 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:14,070 tannot knee integrated information since 293 00:11:17,630 --> 00:11:16,050 each web or unit of meaning is an 294 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:17,640 integrated whole and has its own 295 00:11:22,820 --> 00:11:20,490 patterns to it and a research process 296 00:11:25,460 --> 00:11:22,830 could benefit from sort of examining 297 00:11:26,390 --> 00:11:25,470 what's going on with the brain this kind 298 00:11:28,190 --> 00:11:26,400 of thing that Morris Friedman was 299 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:28,200 talking about earlier what go what's 300 00:11:32,210 --> 00:11:29,370 going on with the brain 301 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:32,220 maybe with both self-reports EEG fMRI 302 00:11:36,530 --> 00:11:34,650 and I do think that the transcranial 303 00:11:39,500 --> 00:11:36,540 stimulation might be very interesting to 304 00:11:41,690 --> 00:11:39,510 try while somebody is doing this process 305 00:11:44,630 --> 00:11:41,700 I think it's deeply connected with 306 00:11:47,630 --> 00:11:44,640 physics the re G process is a quantum 307 00:11:49,850 --> 00:11:47,640 mechanical process and because you're 308 00:11:51,050 --> 00:11:49,860 dealing with quantum mechanics data 309 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:51,060 that's being produced through quantum 310 00:11:55,580 --> 00:11:53,370 mechanics and as theoretical physicist 311 00:11:57,350 --> 00:11:55,590 max tegmark said I think consciousness 312 00:12:01,790 --> 00:11:57,360 is how information feels when it's being 313 00:12:03,890 --> 00:12:01,800 processed in complex ways so I'm working 314 00:12:05,900 --> 00:12:03,900 on a body of work on this I have 315 00:12:08,030 --> 00:12:05,910 finished a book called the selection 316 00:12:10,940 --> 00:12:08,040 effect which is really my whole 317 00:12:12,560 --> 00:12:10,950 experience of this project volume 2 318 00:12:14,630 --> 00:12:12,570 which I'm sort of halfway through is is 319 00:12:17,450 --> 00:12:14,640 the physics theoretical physics on this 320 00:12:19,130 --> 00:12:17,460 volume three as structural psychology 321 00:12:20,780 --> 00:12:19,140 which kind of what I was describing 322 00:12:22,579 --> 00:12:20,790 earlier and then I think there are 323 00:12:24,500 --> 00:12:22,589 spiritual implications of this but I 324 00:12:27,020 --> 00:12:24,510 haven't even started working on that so 325 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:27,030 in summary the mind can influence these 326 00:12:31,190 --> 00:12:29,250 devices and probably much more in life 327 00:12:33,050 --> 00:12:31,200 but the subconscious regulates against 328 00:12:34,310 --> 00:12:33,060 non normalcy and it's the kind of thing 329 00:12:36,410 --> 00:12:34,320 that Morris Friedman was talking about 330 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:36,420 earlier there is a process of self 331 00:12:39,890 --> 00:12:38,130 control and I would say that it's a 332 00:12:41,990 --> 00:12:39,900 little bit different even from filtering 333 00:12:43,460 --> 00:12:42,000 because you can feel when you're doing 334 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:43,470 it you can feel that you are self 335 00:12:47,020 --> 00:12:45,210 controlling so that you don't do any 336 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:47,030 better when you're playing this game and 337 00:12:51,170 --> 00:12:49,170 selves or Minds may have a kind of 338 00:12:53,300 --> 00:12:51,180 mental membrane or outer boundary of 339 00:12:55,850 --> 00:12:53,310 increased significance where you simply 340 00:12:57,860 --> 00:12:55,860 will not go there and we may impress 341 00:12:59,420 --> 00:12:57,870 normalcy on situations to avoid 342 00:13:01,730 --> 00:12:59,430 accidents all the time and we're just 343 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:01,740 simply not aware of how much our desire 344 00:13:05,390 --> 00:13:04,170 for normalcy keeps unusual things from 345 00:13:09,590 --> 00:13:05,400 happening rather than the other way 346 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:09,600 around so this theory is developed by 347 00:13:13,370 --> 00:13:11,010 modeling one's experience 348 00:13:15,829 --> 00:13:13,380 we need more modelers we need re G 349 00:13:18,530 --> 00:13:15,839 Yogi's skilled in the art of quote the 350 00:13:23,989 --> 00:13:18,540 exploration of phenomenal state space so 351 00:13:23,999 --> 00:13:28,429 okay we have a few minutes for questions 352 00:13:34,259 --> 00:13:31,609 so the the amount of data you collected 353 00:13:36,569 --> 00:13:34,269 says that on average you spent three 354 00:13:38,879 --> 00:13:36,579 hours a day over over this time yeah 355 00:13:41,389 --> 00:13:38,889 that's pretty embarrassing but you know 356 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:41,399 when when you think about meditators 357 00:13:46,229 --> 00:13:43,689 people say you know they've meditated 358 00:13:47,309 --> 00:13:46,239 ten ten thousand hours and that's sort 359 00:13:49,169 --> 00:13:47,319 of the same kind of this was my 360 00:13:54,030 --> 00:13:49,179 meditation yeah okay I'm I'm very 361 00:13:55,919 --> 00:13:54,040 impressed by this okay herb thank you I 362 00:13:57,539 --> 00:13:55,929 want to thank you for a couple of 363 00:13:59,340 --> 00:13:57,549 reasons one the workshop you gave a 364 00:14:01,949 --> 00:13:59,350 couple of years ago Diaz's II that was 365 00:14:03,210 --> 00:14:01,959 really beneficial I know I'm not sure 366 00:14:06,660 --> 00:14:03,220 I'm going to thank you for the story I'm 367 00:14:10,079 --> 00:14:06,670 going to tell you I live in eastern 368 00:14:13,079 --> 00:14:10,089 Pennsylvania and the word got out that I 369 00:14:17,509 --> 00:14:13,089 had this mysterious red device from 370 00:14:20,759 --> 00:14:17,519 Princeton a lot so I get invited to 371 00:14:22,799 --> 00:14:20,769 paranormal activities haunted houses and 372 00:14:25,710 --> 00:14:22,809 that kind of thing another story and 373 00:14:27,389 --> 00:14:25,720 I've had drugs on me all night but the 374 00:14:29,879 --> 00:14:27,399 one I'm going to talk about here there's 375 00:14:33,809 --> 00:14:29,889 the most disturbing I was invited to a 376 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:33,819 healing group they are Reiki healers and 377 00:14:38,669 --> 00:14:36,730 mercy healers and whatever and I don't 378 00:14:40,889 --> 00:14:38,679 have a lot of connection with them but I 379 00:14:43,919 --> 00:14:40,899 came in setup with a red device in the 380 00:14:45,629 --> 00:14:43,929 back of the room okay this is one hour 381 00:14:48,139 --> 00:14:45,639 15 minute discussion 382 00:14:50,730 --> 00:14:48,149 the first one are was kind of academic 383 00:14:54,090 --> 00:14:50,740 here's to that concept you know what you 384 00:14:58,499 --> 00:14:54,100 do the host and said to the audience 385 00:15:03,019 --> 00:14:58,509 about 30 of us is anyone here have had a 386 00:15:08,009 --> 00:15:03,029 healing experience you know silence a 387 00:15:10,819 --> 00:15:08,019 woman came front I have she said I just 388 00:15:14,069 --> 00:15:10,829 recently came from the pod repeal 389 00:15:17,009 --> 00:15:14,079 memorial location which is near 390 00:15:19,439 --> 00:15:17,019 Pottstown Pennsylvania or near where I 391 00:15:20,100 --> 00:15:19,449 live which starts in congruous but there 392 00:15:23,309 --> 00:15:20,110 it is 393 00:15:25,710 --> 00:15:23,319 and she went on to describe to the 394 00:15:27,749 --> 00:15:25,720 audience the most incredible healing 395 00:15:29,669 --> 00:15:27,759 experience I've ever heard 396 00:15:32,340 --> 00:15:29,679 now I had my raid device in the back of 397 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:32,350 the room it was set I've looked at 398 00:15:38,820 --> 00:15:34,450 occasionally 399 00:15:42,050 --> 00:15:38,830 okay she gets into the story and the 400 00:15:49,260 --> 00:15:45,810 okay so this she goes into the story and 401 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:49,270 the right device goes off scale and 402 00:15:55,590 --> 00:15:51,490 we'll all of a sudden caught up and the 403 00:15:58,110 --> 00:15:55,600 experience is the field read came on so 404 00:16:02,040 --> 00:15:58,120 I really don't know what happened did 405 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:02,050 her experience transfer to us or how did 406 00:16:10,590 --> 00:16:07,210 this occur that hurt okay we'll talk 407 00:16:11,790 --> 00:16:10,600 about that deal so I guess that's one 408 00:16:15,330 --> 00:16:11,800 way to deal with the experiment or 409 00:16:16,770 --> 00:16:15,340 effect right just it's kind of take it 410 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:16,780 completely out of the equation by being 411 00:16:22,290 --> 00:16:20,250 the test subjects awesome well when your 412 00:16:24,030 --> 00:16:22,300 investigator of your own work you you 413 00:16:27,270 --> 00:16:24,040 you are both the experiment I mean it's 414 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:27,280 right I just - quick quick thoughts or 415 00:16:32,070 --> 00:16:28,810 questions in and I'm sorry I'm a little 416 00:16:34,860 --> 00:16:32,080 bit new to this literature so have there 417 00:16:37,770 --> 00:16:34,870 been any studies thus far to manipulate 418 00:16:39,620 --> 00:16:37,780 the feedback itself so there's I've seen 419 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:39,630 in you know traditional psychology 420 00:16:44,610 --> 00:16:42,010 experiments that manipulate the sense of 421 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:44,620 agency by the you know degree that 422 00:16:47,610 --> 00:16:46,090 actually the feedback is truly 423 00:16:49,980 --> 00:16:47,620 representative of what the with the 424 00:16:51,930 --> 00:16:49,990 subjects actually doing so what I'm 425 00:16:54,060 --> 00:16:51,940 saying is it be interesting to see a 426 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:54,070 study where in which the the feedback 427 00:16:57,900 --> 00:16:56,410 itself was slightly skewed right yeah 428 00:17:00,090 --> 00:16:57,910 there are different forms of feedback 429 00:17:02,790 --> 00:17:00,100 but nothing that has to do with that 430 00:17:04,290 --> 00:17:02,800 kind of tactile visceral sense of self 431 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:04,300 versus non-self which could be 432 00:17:11,490 --> 00:17:08,770 interesting yeah this is sort of related 433 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:11,500 to several questions though that are 434 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:14,530 talking about the brain and I've had a 435 00:17:18,300 --> 00:17:16,330 little bit of training on medic like 436 00:17:19,890 --> 00:17:18,310 your meditation that's brain oriented 437 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:19,900 there's heart centered meditations that 438 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:22,690 are different and we keep bringing in 439 00:17:27,030 --> 00:17:24,970 this sense of an emotion and yet we're 440 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:27,040 not looking at like the three brains 441 00:17:31,590 --> 00:17:29,890 they said the brain the heart brain or 442 00:17:34,020 --> 00:17:31,600 the belly brain mm-hm 443 00:17:36,270 --> 00:17:34,030 in in all of this that how do we and 444 00:17:39,390 --> 00:17:36,280 when it's when we bring this emotion 445 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:39,400 into that and yet we're only putting 446 00:17:42,900 --> 00:17:41,770 probes here yeah the only thing I could 447 00:17:44,930 --> 00:17:42,910 say is there have been studies with 448 00:17:47,780 --> 00:17:44,940 meditators as Dean mentioned and 449 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:47,790 meditators tend to do better so you know 450 00:17:52,210 --> 00:17:49,610 some sense of alignment I think or 451 00:17:55,130 --> 00:17:52,220 awareness of these different centers is 452 00:17:55,970 --> 00:17:55,140 III think it's important I mean I do 453 00:17:58,550 --> 00:17:55,980 think it's important 454 00:18:00,080 --> 00:17:58,560 yes York so bottom line after these 11 455 00:18:01,580 --> 00:18:00,090 years how well do you feel that you 456 00:18:04,430 --> 00:18:01,590 succeeded in training yourself to 457 00:18:06,770 --> 00:18:04,440 produce re G effects well I that's a 458 00:18:10,670 --> 00:18:06,780 very very good question and I would say 459 00:18:13,010 --> 00:18:10,680 that I am NOT an re G yogi that it's 460 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:13,020 still a matter of emotional response and 461 00:18:16,580 --> 00:18:14,970 the better you get at this the more 462 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:16,590 self-control you exert over yourself 463 00:18:21,740 --> 00:18:18,450 that's the most damning thing of this 464 00:18:23,630 --> 00:18:21,750 whole thing is that you actually limit 465 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:23,640 you get better but you also get better 466 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:25,290 at limiting yourself and and and that's 467 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:28,290 not just a cop-out it truly is 468 00:18:33,130 --> 00:18:30,810 you can ferret out those those different 469 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:33,140 effects and see how you limit yourself